Multi-instrumentalist and 99pi music producer Sean Real joins Sam & Martin to discuss coherent and incoherent images of madness. Our discussion revolves around the song's gothic viscerality, the texture of both album and demo versions, and head back to a late 60s' image of the madness in Wonderland.

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Music extracts used for illustrative/review purposes include:
We're All Mad Here, Alice, Tom Waits (2002)

White Rabbit, Surrealistic Pillow, Jefferson Airplane (1967)

Hang Me In The Bottle, The Alice Demos, Tom Waits (1992 - unreleased)

White Rabbit, Conspicuous Only in Its Absence, The Great Society (1966/1968)

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