Sam and Martin return for the penultimate track of Franks Wild Years, to debate the refining of the Tom-Waits-Saying-Goodbye-And-Catching-A-Train song. We talk about the sense of conclusion to Frank's story (or stories), the departure and the collapse of the dream he's seeking throughout this album, and Waits reaching again for older traditions of songwriting.

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Music extracts used for illustrative/review purposes include:
Train Song, Franks Wild Years, Tom Waits (1987)

The Cold Icy Floor, Archive Recording, The Bogtrotter Band (1937)

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