Martin & Sam welcome our guest host Jess Abbott to not only discuss this little trip, but also to provide our interval track, as we discuss another Waits demo-to-studio song in relation to Jess's own (re)writing process.

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Music extracts used for illustrative/review purposes include:
Little Trip To Heaven, The Early Years vol 1, Tom Waits (1991)

Clipping, Nightstand, Tancred (2018)

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