We’re delighted to welcome John Darnielle of The Mountain Goats for this special extended episode listening to the title track from Bad As Me. Diving into the history of Waits’s musical evolution, John, Martin and Sam consider the value of originality, Waits's reasons for producing this album after a 7 year hiatus, and some of the philosophical questions around the creation and publication of music. Plus some good Zelda chat.

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Music extracts used for illustrative/review purposes include:
Bad As Me, Bad As Me, Tom Waits (2011)

If You See Light, Get Lonely, The Mountain Goats (2006)

Clean Slate, single, The Mountain Goats (2023)

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